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The Eleventh Circuit Just Said Carrying a Gun Is Not Reasonable Suspicion of a Crime

Mark W. Smith Mark W. Smith
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The Eleventh Circuit just held that carrying a concealed gun, standing alone, is not reasonable suspicion of a crime — proof that the right to keep and bear arms is enforced as often through the Fourth Amendment as through the Second.

On September 9, 2026, the Eleventh Circuit handed down United States v. Olson Joseph, No. 23-11857, and the win it delivers for the right to keep and bear arms arrives, fittingly, through a different amendment altogether. Judge Kevin Newsom, writing for a unanimous panel that included Judges Barbara Lagoa and Embry Kidd, held that the mere sight of a concealed handgun on a Florida resident no longer gives police reasonable suspicion to stop him. I have argued for years that defending the right to keep and bear arms requires fluency in more than Second Amendment doctrine, and this case is Exhibit A: the panel vacated a felon-in-possession conviction not because it found the underlying gun law unconstitutional, but because the stop that produced the evidence violated the Fourth Amendment.

What Happened on a Miami-Dade Street

In October 2022, Miami-Dade detectives Luis Escarra, Jr. and Rashad Young were watching a residence under surveillance for drug activity, near the site of a fatal shooting two weeks earlier. They saw Olson Joseph — his name is styled both ways in the record, “Olson Joseph” and “Joseph Olson” — with the visible imprint of a handgun beneath his clothing. The officers blocked his path, drew their own weapons, and ordered him to raise his hands. Once he was detained, they found a concealed firearm and, after a records check, learned he was a convicted felon. He was indicted under 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1) and, before U.S. District Judge Cecilia M. Altonaga in the Southern District of Florida, was convicted and sentenced to 46 months. The Eleventh Circuit’s analysis turned entirely on what the officers knew at the moment they seized him — not what they later discovered.

Why the 2015 Amendment Changed Everything

The panel’s reasoning hinges on a statutory change most Floridians never noticed. Before 2015, licensure to carry a concealed weapon was an affirmative defense a defendant had to raise; carrying was presumptively unlawful until proven otherwise. In 2015, Florida amended the statute to make non-licensure an element the government must prove, flipping the presumption. As Judge Newsom’s opinion put it:

“The upshot is that although carrying a concealed weapon was once presumptively unlawful, the 2015 amendments made it presumptively lawful. And that means that the key premise undergirding our decision in Lewis no longer holds.”

That is a direct repudiation of the panel’s own prior precedent, United States v. Lewis, 674 F.3d 1298, 1304 (11th Cir. 2012), which had allowed concealed possession alone to justify a stop. The court went further, expressly declining to follow an unpublished 2022 decision that ignored the amendment altogether, and concluded: “Fourth Amendment principles convince us that, following the 2015 amendments, the mere possession of a concealed weapon does not establish reasonable suspicion” of a violation.

The Unconstitutional-Conditions Doctrine, Applied to Guns

The most important line of reasoning in the opinion is one that matters well beyond the gun context: the government cannot condition your exercise of one constitutional right on your surrender of another. Citing Lebron v. Secretary, Florida Department of Children & Families, 710 F.3d 1202, 1217 (11th Cir. 2013), and Dolan v. City of Tigard, 512 U.S. 374, 385 (1994), the panel wrote that Florida “may not condition one’s lawful concealed carriage of a firearm on his willingness to subject himself to detention at any time and place.” A citizen exercising his Second Amendment right to carry cannot, for that reason alone, be made to forfeit his Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable seizure. The panel closed with a line borrowed from the Supreme Court’s 1979 decision in Delaware v. Prouse: “People are not shorn of all Fourth Amendment protection when they step from their homes onto the public sidewalks.” Judge Newsom’s panel added that this protection “includes those who choose to lawfully carry firearms,” and held flatly that “the district court erred in concluding otherwise.”

A Real Win, With a Real Asterisk

I want to be precise about what this opinion actually decided, because it decided two different things. On the Fourth Amendment, Joseph won outright: his conviction was vacated, the denial of his suppression motion was reversed, and the case was remanded. But in the same opinion, the panel rejected Joseph’s separate argument that § 922(g)(1) itself violates the Second Amendment, affirming the denial of his motion to dismiss under United States v. Rozier, 598 F.3d 768 (11th Cir. 2010), which the circuit reaffirmed post-Bruen in United States v. Dubois, 139 F.4th 887 (11th Cir. 2025). The felon-in-possession statute survives this case untouched. What did not survive is the practice of treating the visible outline of a lawfully carried gun as probable cause for a stop-and-frisk. That is still an important marker of where the country is heading: another data point in the steady, decades-long normalization of gun ownership and public carry, decided not by a legislature but by three Article III judges reading the Constitution as it was written.


This article is based on analysis by Professor Mark W. Smith, constitutional attorney and Host of the Four Boxes Diner 2nd Amendment channel. Watch the original video here. This does not constitute legal advice.

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